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Meeting Minutes – 2005

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December 8
7:30 pm

Attending: Jack Troast, Heather Hedden, John Bakewell, Nancy Sczcesniak, Eileen Faber
Nonmember: Deb Belanger

Meeting schedule: We will generally meet the second Thursday of the month. Next meeting will be January 12, 2006.

Surveys of the other three arterials--Concord Rd., Westford Rd., and Lowell St.-- have been completed, and the roadsides have been walked by members. Payment to Stamski & McNary for the surveys has been authorized.

Presentation of comprehensive analysis to the Board of Selectmen:

Jack, Deb, and John are preparing the financial analysis to include a surface analysis for each of the four surface options:
1) crushed stone and stone dust (of a smaller grade stone that on the Bedford Rd pathway),
2) crushed stone and stone dust with a polymer surface,
3) organic stabilizer, and
4) asphalt.
Deb has most of the financial numbers and will have the rest soon.
We will request to be on the agenda at the next Land Use Committee meeting.

Update of other matters:

Membership: The Committee unanimously voted to recommend to the Board of Selectmen that Deb Belanger join the committee.

Meeting adjourned.
8:50 pm
signed HBH

No meeting was held in November.

October 3
7:30 pm

Attending: Jack Troast, Heather Hedden, John Bakewell, Nancy Sczcesniak, Frank de Alderete, Art Milliken. Nonmember: Tim Hult

Pathway maintenance

Nancy reported on the September 29 maintenance meeting held with the BOS. The objection of the BOH to any herbicide use and the lack of proposed alternatives precludes further meetings of any maintenance task force. The Committee is concerned about the best way to remove poison ivy from the sides of the pathway, but we will not pursue the issue until the spring.

The consideration of alternative pathway surfaces is now our plan to ameliorate pathway maintenance (excluding poison ivy on the sides). The Committee decided not to pursue extensive testing of different surfaces, however, in an effort to save time and money. Rather, we will research the effectiveness of different surfaces already in use in New England (our climatic region) and obtain photos if possible. In addition to the current 1/4" crushed stone/stone dust aggregate, the alternative surfaces include the crushed stone/stone dust aggregate combined with a binding polymer, organic stabilizer, asphalt, and a type of concrete surface that can have a stone appearance impressed on the surface, as suggested by Bob Koning. Frank said that a university study has should the polymer to be suitable in pathways, as long as the pathway is not used by horses. In addition to investigating the effectiveness, the costs per linear feet will also be researched, as planned. Frank, John, and Deb will do this research. The cost and maintenance alternatives will then be presented to the Board of Selectmen and then put before the Carlisle Land Use team.

Bedford Rd. pathway repair

East St. pathway

Surveys of other arterials

We received the survey from Stamksy & McNary for Lowell Street, and we expect the other two within a few days. John will make copies and do the eventual marking of the plans. We will ask Eileen to coordinate the walk of Lowell St.

Bedford Rd. as-built survey

Art presented the as-built survey from LandTech, but modifications are still needed: the continuation of the pathway past the ATM to the start of the School St. property, indications of the right of way (old road) along 67 and 71 Bedford Rd. just before the Seawrights, and then the planned easement and detour of the pathway behind the tree and the Zezimas. Art will pas this job on to Nancy, as he will be away for the winter.

Meeting adjourned 10:00 pm
signed HBH

September 19
7:30 pm
Special Meeting co-hosted with the Board of Selectmen to discuss pathway maintenance.

Attending: Nancy Szczesniak, Heather Hedden; nonmembers: Tim Hult (BOS), Linda Fantasia (BOH), Martha Bedrosian (BOH), Larry Sorli (Historical Commission), Delaine Williamson (CPAG), Deb Belanger, Sylvia Sillers, Liz Carpenter

Nancy gave a presentation on the pathway surface and maintenance concerns. She also reported her research on the health safety of glyphosate, in which she found the direct health detriment to be very limited or unsubstantiated. Nancy reported that glyphosate is less damaging to the environment, which can be through the surface water, when "painted" directly on plant leaves.

Nancy also reported having spoken with Mike McLean, the right of-way management state official who said that, glyphosate, as "Roundup", can be used once a year with up to 10% additional application, but the acetic acid preparation "Burn-Out" cannot legally be used. To use any chemical does require approval, according to the right-of-way management laws, due to the location of public water supply and private wells.

Martha Bedrosian said the use of Roundup to eradicate weeds in pathways is unacceptable. One-time painting on Roundup on remaining poison ivy that cannot be mechanically eliminated could be considered by a vote of Town meeting, although the BOH would vote against it under any circumstances.

Tim Hult said that the economics of alternate surfaces needs to be considered. The committee will test crushed stone with a smaller size stone and also with the combination of a polymer on sections of Bedford Road before making a recommendation for the rest of the pathways.

Meeting adjourned at 9:00 pm.
signed HBH

August 18, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, Frank de Alderete, Heather Hedden, Nancy Szczesniak, Eileen Faber
Nonmember: Sylvia Sillers

Planning and Design for Other Arterials (Concord St., Lowell Rd., Westford Rd.)

Presentation of Comprehensive Cost-Analysis to the Board of Selectmen

This will be to consideranalyze total project costs as well as different surfaces, and will be done at a future yet-to-be-determined date. Preparation will include:

Afterwards, Jack will follow up with the Carlisle Land Use Team.

Bedford Rd. Pathway ADA Compliance and Maintenance

ADA compliance: Frank presented feedback from Building Inspector Bob Koning:

Mechanical maintenance of Bedford Rd (John and Frank)

John and Frank will work with Kevin Stacy and Gary Davis to resurface the pathway from the Post Office to the center with 1/4" stone and stone dust, with a test of added polymer mix in front of the library section, using money from the BOS approved maintenance budget, but keeping some money in the budge in serve for possible testing of organic stabilizer elsewhere later.

Right of Way Maintenance Plan Task Force

Nancy presented the state regulations, which are quite bureaucratic. Nancy will meet with Tim Hult, our BOS liaison to discuss moving forward with the task force including members of ConsCom, BOH, CPAG, BOS, and our committee.

East Street Pathway Planning

Retaining Wall design - Frank will check with John on the design. John will check with DPW. Frank will get quotes from Carl Hansom and Kevin Stacy.

Bedford Rd. Final Easements

Jack will ask Art for the "As-Built" survey and status.

Meeting adjourned 9:40 pm
signed HBH

July 28, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Frank de Alderete, Heather Hedden, Nancy Szczesniak, Eileen Faber
Nonmember: Deb Belanger

Madonna has informed us that the pathway must be ADA compliant. Determining whether the pathway is ADA compliant will be up to the building inspector Bob Koning. Loosening large gravel in the pathway may jeopardize its ADA compliance. The Bedford Rd. pathway surface may contain stones that are too large also contributing to weed growth.

We have received memos from the Board of Health and from ConsCom informing the Committee of the regulations pertaining to the use of herbicides on rights of way. In light of this information, we will not be testing herbicides for now, contrary to discussions with the Board of Selectmen.

The Committee agreed that the development of a right-of-way maintenance plan would be best coordinated by a joint task force. Nancy will chair or co- chair the task force to include the Board of Health, Cons Com, CPAG, and a representative of the Board of Selectmen.

Deb presented a cost estimate of different pathway surface types.

John reported that the string trimmer was not effective of removing weeds growing up in the middle of the pathway, but it was effective at cutting back poison ivy along the sides.

The Committee agreed that it would be best to develop information across a range of planning areas with the goal of presenting a comprehensive analysis to the Board of Selectmen in the Fall. Tasks for Bedford Rd. pathway weed eradication, pathway maintenance in general, East Street pathway construction, and future road surveys were outlined and assigned:

Meeting adjourned 10:10 pm
signed HBH

July 9, 2005
10:00 am
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Sean Flynn, Heather Hedden, Nancy Szczesniak
Nonmember: Deb Belanger

The procurement of boulders for the retaining wall fell through, because the building contractor wasn't sure we would ge them, got nervous, and buried the boulders before getting word that we wanted them. We will stay on the lookout for any future boulders becoming available.

Pathway maintenance plan

The growth of weeds has made the pathway no longer ADA compliant.
We had originally budgeted $4000 - $5000/year for pathway maintenance.

We need to consider

  1. What to do with the current weeds and surface on Bedford Rd.
    -- We will use crushed stone of a smaller diameter so that it compacts better.
  2. What to do with future paths? We will use smaller stones so it will compact better.

What to do with the current weeds and surface on Bedford Rd. Deb presented alternatives:

  1. Spray chemical herbicide (roundup): costs $500 for all of Bedford Rd. path but has political opponents
  2. Add additional surface: costs $700o - $10,000 for all of Bedford Rd. path
  3. Use the bobcat bucket to scrap and compact the surface: costs $1000-$2000 for all of Bedford Rd. path
  4. A combination of adding some new materials (not for the entire length of the pathway) and compacting in certain areas: costs $5000 for the Bedford Rd. path. Deb recommended this option.

Nancy presented her research of the chemical herbicide Roundup (glyphosate) compared with organic (acetic acid) alternatives. Glyphosate is "relatively safe" compared with other more complex herbicides. John pointed out that Roundup is approved by the EPA and state agencies for killing weeds. Acetic acid is approved as an herbicide in concentrations only at 6%, as the brand Burnout, but is less affective. In concentrations of 20% it is not approved as an herbicide.

John suggested using string trimmers (weed-wackers) directly on the path along with plywood panels in a team effort to cut the weeds at the base (and keep the gravel on the path) as short-term weed suppression. They could also experiment with sweeping, raking, hoeing, removing and adding material, and compacting to improve the path surface. With that direct experience they could then direct a professional crew in a cost effective manner.

East Street retaining wall

We need a structural engineer to work with Gary Davis to create the retaining wall with an as-built design afterwards.

Meeting adjourned 12:15 pm
signed HBH

July 7, 2005
12:15 pm
Attending: Heather Hedden, Frank de Alderete, John Bakewell
Nonmember: Deb Belanger

Boulders for constructing a retaining wall on East Street at St. Irene's have been located at a construction site on Monument street, and have been viewed and deemed suitable for the retaining wall by Louise Hara, Carl Hanscom (builder), and Deb Belanger. These boulders would become unavailable by July 8, so to have them for building the retaining wall, we needed to request their removal and storage at this emergency meeting today.

A motion to build a retaining wall on East Street for the pathway passed unanimously.

A motion to pay up to $500 for the hauling of the boulders (expected to be three truckloads) from the construction site to the property of David Flannery (as there is no room currently at the DPW) for DPW use in building the retaining wall passed unanimously.

Meeting adjourned at 12:20 pm
Signed HBH

June 20, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Heather Hedden, Frank de Alderete, John Bakewell
Nonmembers: Deb Belanger, Nancy Szczesniak, Chris Chin, Delaine Williamson

Pathway maintenance plan

East Street pathway plan

Administration

Meeting adjourned at 9:50 pm

June 9, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken, Eileen Faber, Frank de Alderete
Nonmembers: Deb Belanger, Nancy Szczesniak, Graham Reed, Christopher Bojanic

The meeting recessed from 8:15 to 8:45 to attend the Conservation Commission's hearing of our Committee's application.

East Street pathway plan

Planning for the June 20 public hearing on pathway maintenance was discussed.

Design of the three other arterial roads: Eileen will contact Stamksy & McNary letting them know that they can begin the job.

Bedford Road pathway

The June 28 Board of Selectmen meeting will be for an update and presentation of the maintenance plan. It will not yet be an East Street plan approval, because the finalized plan will no have to wait for the completion of the ConsCom notice of intent application.

Meeting adjourned at 10:30 pm
Signed HBH

May 19, 2005
8:00 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken, Eileen Faber, Frank de Alderete
Nonmembers: Deb Belanger, Nancy Szczesniak

Administration: The committee plans to start submitting standardized monthly reports to the Board of Selectmen, beginning in June.

East Street pathway plan approval process

East Street easements

Bedford Road pathway

East Street planning

Pathway maintenance

Meeting adjourned at 10:30 pm
Signed HBH

April 21, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken, Eileen Faber, Frank de Alderete

East Street pathway plan

Survey quotes for additional roads

We have received the minimum three bids for the combined surveys of Concord Rd., Westford St., and Lowell St.: Stamsky & McNary for a total of $35,750 (to take 6 weeks) and from Ross & Associates for a total of $36,075 (to take 8 weeks), and H-Star Engineering for a total of $45, 475. LandTech was asked, but chose not to bid.

Bedford Rd.

Pathway maintenance

Meeting adjourned at 9:00 pm
Signed HBH

April 3, 2005
1:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken, Eileen Faber, Frank de Alderete, Sean Flynn, and nonmember Deb Belanger

John presented the quote for designing the retaining wall at St. Irene's on East Street for Ross & Associates for $1500. A motion to accept Ross's quote was approved unanimously.

Eileen received two quotes for surveys of the other three roads (Concord St., Westford St., and Lowell St.), which were from Stamsky & McNary for a total of $35,750 and from Ross for a total of $36,075. We need a minimum of three bids, so we will defer the vote. We expect to receive two more bids.

Eileen presented an overview of our finances. We have $9799.63 in our account, left from the original proceeds of $10,000 deposited from a developer. All of our Chapter 90 funds of $30,000 have been spent. Of the $150,000 town budget, we have a balance of $137, 2000 remaining.

The East Street pathway redline map has not yet been received from Ross. Once received Sean will use it for a walk-through with representatives of the Planning Board and ConsCom on a Monday morning. It will then be presented to those Boards for approval.

Based on David Kolstad's preference not to be an active member and his inability to attend meetings, a motion to accept his resignation passed unanimously.

Meeting adjourned at 3:20 pm
Signed HBH

March 17, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken

East Street pathway
John reported that Gary Davis agreed that the designing of the retaining wall is too complicated for himself or Kevin Stacey to do. Ross will do the estimate, but needs a plan of where exactly it will be located. Sean will mark the redline on the map and mail it to Ross. John will suggest to Ross having alternatives to the type of wall to be part of the estimate.

RFPs for surveys for Lowell, Concord, and Westford streets have been sent out with a deadline for bids of march 31. Eileen will follow up on them.

Bedford Road pathway construction accounting
Eileen is working on this, completing the spreadsheet. For the as-built survey, Senkler still needs to finish his landscaping, which he will do when the snow melts.

Weed maintenance
The purchase of a week torch for up to $500 has been approved by the Board of Selectmen, but the planned brand of weed torch is no longer being sold. To keep it under budget, a small unit is not very powerful, but can be used as a test. John will buy it and get reimbursed.

Meeting adjourned at 8:30 pm
signed HBH

February 17, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: Jack Troast, John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken

Bedford Road pathway

Pathway maintenance

Other three arterial roads

East Street pathway construction

Meeting adjourned at 9:00 pm
signed HBH

January 20, 2005
7:30 pm
Attending: John Bakewell, Heather Hedden, Art Milliken, Eileen Faber, Frank de Alderete

Bedford Road pathway

Pathway maintenance

East Street pathway

Other three arterial roads

Meeting adjourned at 9:15 pm
signed HBH

 

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